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PostSubject: Metapolitics   Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:02 pm

Introduction

This thread, "Metapolitics", is dedicated to posting thoughts on politics which shall cover a variety of topics in Politics, in its whole entirety, and intended to give a deeper, philosophical, and even spiritual, perspective to the reader. This shall cover a wide variety of topics, many of which that are considered 'fringe' and taboo'; even perhaps 'irrational', while still intending to bring reason into understanding this reality. Anyone on this forum can participate and communicate their thoughts; debate and discussion is highly encouraged, so as long as it is ept civil.

My Perspective on Metapolitcs

As a person searching for Truth, I try to transcend and explore all political ideologies with an open mind (those both on the Left and Right spectrum), in order to cultivate a more vast and rich outlook of Politics. I focus largely on the corruption and coercion that those in power have been imposing on the public; how they have also manipulated and brainwashed them into accepting the institutionalized dogmas and ideologies of society which has brought an overall decay in all things: morality, value, thought, and the coercion against the outside environment.

As I delved deep into my research, I have found that there are varying viewpoints surrounding historical events and figures, which may seem contradictory but as a whole is harmonious. It's harmonious, because of the fact that this reality is meant to be multi-faceted in its continuous activity of creation, as both affecting and being affected by us. Ideas of all kinds are in flux in the continuous historical time; as Truth is continuously revealed to us in more complex and deeper ways, so does Lies, and ways of destruction. The idea of historical epochs and cycles, and the idea of the 'coming of age' (or 'New World Order', 'New Age'), has been understood and espoused in Hinduism (the Yugas), the Greek epochs, western religious eschatology, Hegelian philosophy, etc. That is part of the continuous creation of reality.

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:10 pm

WanderingLands wrote:

As a person searching for Truth, I try to transcend and explore all political ideologies with an open mind (those both on the Left and Right spectrum), in order to cultivate a more vast and rich outlook of Politics. I focus largely on the corruption and coercion that those in power have been imposing on the public; how they have also manipulated and brainwashed them into accepting the institutionalized dogmas and ideologies of society which has brought an overall decay in all things: morality, value, thought, and the coercion against the outside environment.

As I delved deep into my research, I have found that there are varying viewpoints surrounding historical events and figures, which may seem contradictory but as a whole is harmonious. It's harmonious, because of the fact that this reality is meant to be multi-faceted in its continuous activity of creation, as both affecting and being affected by us. Ideas of all kinds are in flux in the continuous historical time; as Truth is continuously revealed to us in more complex and deeper ways, so does Lies, and ways of destruction. The idea of historical epochs and cycles, and the idea of the 'coming of age' (or 'New World Order', 'New Age'), has been understood and espoused in Hinduism (the Yugas), the Greek epochs, western religious eschatology, Hegelian philosophy, etc. That is part of the continuous creation of reality.

I keep an open-mind in regards to politics, too. Usually, I tend to eschew political dialogues ( in person ), because passions can become fomented easily, like religious debates. If I had to put a label on myself, I suppose 'conservative-libertarian' would be apt. But I don't vote, nor am I part of any official political party.

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The idea of historical epochs and cycles, and the idea of the 'coming of age' (or 'New World Order', 'New Age'), has been understood and espoused in Hinduism (the Yugas), the Greek epochs, western religious eschatology, Hegelian philosophy, etc. That is part of the continuous creation of reality.

What are your thoughts on the nature of this coming age? Do you think it will be tyrannical and malevolent, as many in the conspiracy theory communities believe, or do you think it will be a revival of a golden age?

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:06 pm

Erik wrote:

What are your thoughts on the nature of this coming age? Do you think it will be tyrannical and malevolent, as many in the conspiracy theory communities believe, or do you think it will be a revival of a golden age?

I tend to teeter between positive and negative. As I have observed in politics, and pretty much in society in general with the way things are going, I think there will be continual down-turn that will continue for a while. On the other hand, though, there is an increasing abundance of knowledge and increasing connection with many others thanks to the internet (even though, paradoxically, with all the surveillance and other nefarious activities that governments and corporations are doing).

If there is going to be some 'golden age' to come (which I think there may be and hope for), then it would be up to us to try and 'plant the seeds' for it. That would mean examining oneself and the situations in the world, and to reach out to other people to form a community to shelter against the onslaught of the problems that we face.

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:18 pm

CONSPIRACIES: FACT & FICTION

Exploring the subject of 'Conspiracism': its description and why it exists; why it's shunned in the main line of our culture as it has thrived as a sub-culture, or as a 'counter-culture' in modern/post-modern times. It's about delving deep into conspiracy theories, and separating what's actually true about them from what is distorted and fabricated among many notable conspiracy theorists. There shall also be a dissection to the very idea of a 'New World Order', which has become a central theme in the Conspiracist culture.

A conspiracy theory is at best to be defined here as a theory of a group, that plans on conspiring against a desired target for nefarious purposes. Everyone has conspired against each other, and have portrayed their enemies as conspiring against them; it is part of protecting ourselves from any hostile force and preserving our sense of self. The term is not limited to today's conspiracy theorists, that theorize about grand conspiracies against the common people. Every government is conspiring against each other and creating their own conspiracy theories (mainly for propaganda); it is found among political parties and groups that differ by beliefs and methods of politics (Right vs Left, and/or internal conflict).

The 'New World Order' conspiracy is basically the grandest of all conspiracy theories, as it includes many of those theories with differing outlooks on the who's the 'master' conspirator. It is a culmination of secret society conspiracies (Illuminati, Freemasonry, Rosicrucian, Skull & Bones), ideologies (Marxist/Socialist/Communist, Fascist/Nazi, Neoconservatism, Imperialism), health and medical conspiracies (HIV/AIDS, Vaccines, Ebola, GMOs, etc), bankers, royal bloodlines, aliens, reptillians, Jews, Jesuits, Vatican.

There are indeed truths within most of these theories, but then there are also falsehoods about them (distortions, speculations, fabrication). As to be explored further on in subsequent posts, there are ton of disinformation surrounding these conspiracy theories. The biggest issue, I believe, is how it appeared; if there's any credibility of these theories such as real possible evidences, or primal sources. Many of them tend to be outlandish, and not critically looked at for any tangible truth. The reasons are because there are many frauds in the conspiracy circles that have capitalized on disseminating these theories, which have attracted dogmatic followers. Many conspiracy researchers have also been genuinely biased about their inquiries, and have not critically looked at aspects of them as it may threaten their belief systems.

The conspiratorial circle has been marginalized by the mainstream society, and also the government (US and other governments in the past). It's because of their need to preserve their power that they have to caricature conspiracy theorists and theories as being related to 'paranoia', and 'fringe extremism'. The intellectual side of conspiracy has been deliberately ignored for the purpose of keeping the status quo alive, and keeping the masses dumbed-down and passive.

Here are some good reads that I recommend for people that want to do their own research.
HOW TO MAKE SENSE OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Michael LaBossiere YouTube - I include this because he has some good videos on critical inquiry.

My favorite websites for research.
Conspiracy Archive
Peter Myers' website
Global Research
Illusion of Elite Unity Will Banyan
Historical Revisionism
Institute for Historical Review

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:02 pm

SECRET SOCIETIES

There is a ton of information of secret societies: the Illuminati, Freemasonry, Rosicrucians, Skull & Bones, and other groups that will be highlighted in possible upcoming posts. The main goups that I will be talking about are the Illuminati, and also Freemasonry and the Rosicrucians to some lesser degree.

There are a ton of information, both scholarly material and misconceptions, about the Illuminati. There are various theories out there: that they are a Satanic/Occult group out to create global conspiracy; that the Illuminati is a term to reference the 13 Royal Bloodlines; that the All-Seeing Eye is their symbol; so on and so on. First and foremost, the Illuminati is not pertaining to any royal bloodline, and is in fact a misrepresentation of the group when looked at through a more serious point-of-view. The reality was, they were an 18th century Enlightenment Era secret society that was, in fact, committed to the social reformation and revolutions.

They did have, in fact, a global vision, as inspired by the works of Enlightenment philosophers such as Jean Jaques Rousseau, and other such thinkers that had envisioned a global communist order. It is true that there was, in fact, a totalitarian element within the order; it was run with complete control by Adam Weishaupt, the group's founder. The members of the order were subjugated to being watched by 'unknown superiors', in trying to mold them into 'perfection'. The Illuminati order's political methods were also conspiratorial; as described by Jonathan Israel, the Illuminati order had operated as a 'parasitic plant' to Freemasonry. Their educational methods (Illuminati and Freemasonry) are linked to the Prussian model of indoctrination, which was shown by researchers John Taylor Gatto and Charlotte Iserbyt to influence the current educational system in America (read Temple of Man: Freemasonry, Civil Religion, and Education).

The order was short lived, as it was suppressed in 1793 by Bavarian ruler Charles Theodor. There have been short lived continuations by Johann Joachim Bode, and other disconnected organizations claiming title of Illuminati as documented by Pete R. Koenig's piece on the Illuminati.
This sheds light on a theory that the Illuminati 'continues' to operate to this day.

Other false claims were that the Rothschilds had financed the Illuminati order to help conspire against the governments of Europe, which there is no documented proof of. There have also been theories of the Illuminist influence in America; that Thomas Jefferson was member of the Illuminati, and that their symbol was the All-Seeing Eye shown on the American dollar (their real symbol was actually the Owl of Minerva). Here are some videos debunking these claims, explained by Jeva Singh-Anand.




Here are some good websites that contain good info on the Illuminati.

Bavarian Illuminati
Bavarian Illuminati Wordpress
A good book that I'm reading right now, which covers the Illuminati is Fire in the Minds of Men by James H. Billington, which goes into great detail about the history of revolutionary groups and ideologies.

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:59 pm

A lot of people are unfortunately uneducated about the nature of politics, as can be seen in many that follow the main-line ideologies of 'Democrat' or 'Republican', and rely on mainstream media for information. They do not delve deep to question the nature of how this authority is ran, or question their stance on current events or the narratives of them. Instead, they just accept what is given to them, and then go about their business without any concern or wonder.

These people have been molded into being followers, through the indoctrination by the media to consume products and blindly believe the established authority, and also by the education system which compartmentalizes their mind into 'knowing' (as in memorizing) what is told in class (instead of trying to actually learn, as in grasping things and connecting them to have a greater understanding). Because of this, they cannot think with their mind so much as they follow their emotions and desires, which is largely implanted in by society subconsciously, to which is exploited for control by the elites (corporations, politicians, etc).

Slogans, labels, and ideologies triumph the political arena over actually philosophizing about politics; and hardly anyone has ever willed to think outside them, to try making sense of what's going on in society. People are emotionally charged about their political views, and it's often considered a bit 'taboo' to have a conversation about politics because of it. In fact, if anyone tries to raise questions and posit 'unconventional' views about current and historical events (the "New" War On Terror with ISIS, September 11th, the Holocaust, etc), those people will be ridiculed as 'conspiracy theorists', 'cranks', 'denialists', and so on. They may even find trouble with the government, alongside with their crony institutions (such as academia).

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:06 pm

Thoughts on Leftist Abhorrence of Christianity, and Acceptance of Islam

It never seizes to amaze me how leftists will openly lambast and chide Christianity, but when it comes to Islam, they will turn a blind eye to acts of violence, that if committed by Christians, would have them in a fury. Honestly, I think this left-wing antipathy for Christianity emanates from the fact that many right-wingers are Christian, so the religion becomes guilty by association.

What, really, cracks me up is when people claim that Islam is a " religion of peace "; more like religion of ' pieces ' ( body parts ) all over the place. The ones who surmise that Islam is a benevolent religion are simply ignorant or deluded. If people think that the Bible is brutal, then the Quran takes brutality to a whole new level.

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:12 pm

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Islam is a " religion of peace "; more like religion of ' pieces '

The word Islam means submission which is rooted from the word salam (peace)..The idea is that if you submit your will to Allah (God) then you will be given an inner peace, also if everybody was to submit themselves to the will of God and follow accordingly, then there will be a peace on earth through obedience. This is where Jihad comes into it, there are a few types, the self and the worldly. To struggle to fight one's desires and oneself from falling into sin and to struggle against worldly sin committed by others, and to fight them accordingly.

That "religion of peace" expression is widely misunderstood.
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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:42 pm

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The word Islam means submission which is rooted from the word salam (peace)..The idea is that if you submit your will to Allah (God) then you will be given an inner peace, also if everybody was to submit themselves to the will of God and follow accordingly, then there will be a peace on earth through obedience. This is where Jihad comes into it, there are a few types, the self and the worldly. To struggle to fight one's desires and oneself from falling into sin and to struggle against worldly sin committed by others, and to fight them accordingly.

That "religion of peace" expression is widely misunderstood.

There are some passages from the Quran, which seem to suggest that Islam is a religion of peace; but if you take the religion as a whole, it's not a religion of peace at all.

My point is that many left-wingers try to make Islam into some goodie-two-shoes, sun-shines and rainbows religion of eternal benevolence, when in reality, it's quite the contrary.

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:50 pm

Well, I suppose they would have to, especially if they view it as "just another religion", thus underestimating the content on the religion itself. Such behaviour would seem highly self deprecating, perhaps a modern attempt to modify or trivialize the religion itself, as done with Christianity, into a compatible form with left values. The perception is towards the average religious follower with a focus on the acceptability to practice in the form of worship, but not to actually implement such beliefs objectively into society.
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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:57 pm

Erik wrote:
Thoughts on Leftist Abhorrence of Christianity, and Acceptance of Islam

It never seizes to amaze me how leftists will openly lambast and chide Christianity, but when it comes to Islam, they will turn a blind eye to acts of violence, that if committed by Christians, would have them in a fury. Honestly, I think this left-wing antipathy for Christianity emanates from the fact that many right-wingers are Christian, so the religion becomes guilty by association.

What, really, cracks me up is when people claim that Islam is a " religion of peace "; more like religion of ' pieces ' ( body parts ) all over the place. The ones who surmise that Islam is a benevolent religion are simply ignorant or deluded. If people think that the Bible is brutal, then the Quran takes brutality to a whole new level.

I agree that people on the Left will often side with Islam and other foreign religions; obviously because many of them promote multiculturalism (even 'one world'), and as you said, to vilify and associate Christianity as being part of the 'Right'.

I think, though, that you're overestimating the violence committed by Muslims and advocated by their religious texts and teachings, by saying that it ups the ante on brutality. To me, I don't think the violence and sectarianism advocated by the Quran is any worse than that of the Bible. Perhaps give out your reasons?

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:24 pm

The left is using Islam as a tool against Christianity, for the time being. Islam is using the left as a tool to promote a moderate form of itself, for a time being.
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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:06 pm

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I think, though, that you're overestimating the violence committed by Muslims and advocated by their religious texts and teachings, by saying that it ups the ante on brutality. To me, I don't think the violence and sectarianism advocated by the Quran is any worse than that of the Bible. Perhaps give out your reasons?

I don't think the violence committed by Muslims is overestimated at all, although he didn't actually say that specifically, but rather it's advocated by the religious texts. I think those two can be fairly different to each other, the act of the so called believer and the text of the religion.

The Muslims of today are pretty damn violent, but as far as it be justified by the Quranic teachings, I would say otherwise. Muhammed dealt in violence, but not quite like the way ISIS would, for him, it was fairly justified, wars engaged in as a results of broken peace treaties. ISIS is all vengeance, conquer the world! which is something Islam is opposed to. Ironically, even in Islam it self, it states that there will be people towards the end of time, who will claim to be a follower and then go on to commit barbaric acts in the name of Islam, which is completely outlawed. A relevant example of this would be the burning of the Jordanian pilot in a cage. In the Islamic teaching, it is only permissible that Allah (God) is allowed to punish with fire, therefore it is not acceptable that fire is used against anybody during a time of war, or capture, and is strictly forbidden by the Sharia Law, and then these people go on to do such a thing, in a very calculated manner too. If Muhammed seen such an act, he would simply turn his head away and curse such people, just like he did many times in his life time.

Another thing, I don't see why people separate Christianity and Islam so much, Islam follows the Abrahamic tradition with all the prophets included, although briefly highlighting that the Bible has been modified slightly, only parts remaining true but other part's legit, therefore it's not a completely source of authenticity according to Islamic theology. Therefore, the certain sects of Christians who profess that there is only one God (not trinity) and Jesus is but a prophet (not God in human form) are classified as Muslims from the Islamic text, and are admitted to the heavens, despite the fact that they call themselves in "Christians" in this life time. It really isn't a black and white situation, not that this as a lot to do with the context of what is being said, just throwing it out there ....
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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:15 pm

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I don't think the violence committed by Muslims is overestimated at all, although he didn't actually say that specifically, but rather it's advocated by the religious texts. I think those two can be fairly different to each other, the act of the so called believer and the text of the religion.

The Muslims of today are pretty damn violent, but as far as it be justified by the Quranic teachings, I would say otherwise. Muhammed dealt in violence, but not quite like the way ISIS would, for him, it was fairly justified, wars engaged in as a results of broken peace treaties. ISIS is all vengeance, conquer the world! which is something Islam is opposed to. Ironically, even in Islam it self, it states that there will be people towards the end of time, who will claim to be a follower and then go on to commit barbaric acts in the name of Islam, which is completely outlawed. A relevant example of this would be the burning of the Jordanian pilot in a cage. In the Islamic teaching, it is only permissible that Allah (God) is allowed to punish with fire, therefore it is not acceptable that fire is used against anybody during a time of war, or capture, and is strictly forbidden by the Sharia Law, and then these people go on to do such a thing, in a very calculated manner too. If Muhammed seen such an act, he would simply turn his head away and curse such people, just like he did many times in his life time.

Another thing, I don't see why people separate Christianity and Islam so much, Islam follows the Abrahamic tradition with all the prophets included, although briefly highlighting that the Bible has been modified slightly, only parts remaining true but other part's legit, therefore it's not a completely source of authenticity according to Islamic theology. Therefore, the certain sects of Christians who profess that there is only one God (not trinity) and Jesus is but a prophet (not God in human form) are classified as Muslims from the Islamic text, and are admitted to the heavens, despite the fact that they call themselves in "Christians" in this life time. It really isn't a black and white situation, not that this as a lot to do with the context of what is being said, just throwing it out there ....

I agree with most of what you've said, mainly concerning Islam, which was what I was trying to say in response to Erik's voicing that the Quran is worse in brutality. As for ISIS, that group you see is largely funded by the US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia; all three of those nations working within the US/NATO interests of gaining dominance over the Middle East (for oil and globalization). It's a pretty vast subject, which I have information on.

Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East”
The Grand Chessboard - Zbigniew Brzezinski
ISIS Unveiled: The Identity of The Insurgency in Syria and Iraq
The ISIS Islamic Terrorists are Supported by the US, Israel and Saudi Arabia

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:58 am

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I think, though, that you're overestimating the violence committed by Muslims and advocated by their religious texts and teachings, by saying that it ups the ante on brutality. To me, I don't think the violence and sectarianism advocated by the Quran is any worse than that of the Bible. Perhaps give out your reasons?

You are correct. I was a bit sloppy in my claim. The bible is, actually, on the same level as the Quran, maybe even a bit worse. So, I retract my statement. What I meant to say is that violence committed by Muslims, in modernity, is more brutal and more common, than violence committed by Christians.

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:52 am

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You are correct. I was a bit sloppy in my claim. The bible is, actually, on the same level as the Quran, maybe even a bit worse. So, I retract my statement. What I meant to say is that violence committed by Muslims, in modernity, is more brutal and more common, than violence committed by Christians.

Alright then.

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:20 pm

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Erik wrote:

You are correct. I was a bit sloppy in my claim. The bible is, actually, on the same level as the Quran, maybe even a bit worse. So, I retract my statement. What I meant to say is that violence committed by Muslims, in modernity, is more brutal and more common, than violence committed by Christians.

Alright then.

Yeah, lol.

I conflated the New Testament with the Old Testament. The NT is basically peaceful, apart from the few apocalyptic prophesies about the " son of man returning with a sword ". The Old Testament contains all the lovely descriptions about genocide and so on.

Modern Christians, in general, are fairly harmless in regards to physical violence ( terrorism ), though the psychological damage done by radical superstition shouldn't be overlooked. Most muslims aren't violent either, but obviously there are a notable chunk of them that are violent extremists and take literally their prophets commands to kill infidels.

Even though I abhor mainstream Islam, I do find Sufism to be interesting and def. a more palatable form of Islam.

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Political Correctness

This whole PC epidemic has gotten out of hand...people can't even say " black " without being labeled racist! The PC culture inadvertently promotes hyper-sensitivity or cultural effeminacy; emphasis is on emotions, on how you feel...not whether something is true or false!

Multi-culturalism is another beast that shall be slain later...

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:43 pm

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Political Correctness

This whole PC epidemic has gotten out of hand...people can't even say " black " without being labeled racist! The PC culture inadvertently promotes hyper-sensitivity or cultural effeminacy; emphasis is on emotions, on how you feel...not whether something is true or false!

Multi-culturalism is another beast that shall be slain later...

Not only race but also gender and sexuality as well, with the emerging of the idea that gender is somehow a 'social construct' (completely ignoring the biological and ontological nature of male/female polarity), and wanting to promote transgenderism and homosexuality onto the public. It's all about corrupting gender roles and the masses in general; as far as I've read, it's also related to the population control conspiracy, as there are falling fertility in the Westen world and Asia, as with men losing testosterone and women gaining it.

I've watched a video sometime ago on this; it's called "Homosexuality and the Chemical Manipulation of Humanity.



And speaking of PC, just look at the vast Jewish/Zionist influence in the Western world (Holocaust industry, pro-Israel, Jewish bankers, etc). Anyone that brings that up is often labelled an 'anti-semite' and 'racist', despite the vast amount of evidence.

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:34 pm

Is the Truth Movement Really Awakened?

The "Truth Movement" is basically an umbrella term for several groups that adhere to various conspiracy theories, often directed towards this global establishment that seeks to advance their power by the means of destructive force against humanity. The term was borne from the 9/11 Truth Movement - a movement dedicated to questioning the official narrative of the September 11th event.

I pose this question, "Is the Truth Movement really awakened", because it appears to me that the answer is a firm negative; while there may be those who are actually willing to ask critical questions and seek out truthful answers, there is still a large majority that hold on to the 'crowd mentallity' of simply following various conspiracy camps and various charismatic self-inclined leaders (ie. Alex Jones, David Icke, We Are Change, etc). The average "Truther" is really no more 'awakened' than those that simply follow the mainstream mass media and consume their lives with empty junk. Simply reading an article about government corruption, and then following activist leaders and groups is not at all being 'awakened'; an 'awakening' can only happen from the internal self only. No external force could ever do so.

This fact is especially true, when people start to follow 'activists' like Alex Jones and David Icke; they lure people in with half-truths/half-falsehoods, pump up their fear-mongering as basically any other cultist personality would do; whether luring them into their cult group or advertising products and asking for donations. Groups like We Are Change do nothing but rally around towns and cities (and occasionally the rich elites), yelling and propagating the usual empty 'Truther' slogans ("End The Fed", "Government Corruption!", "The Answer to 1984 is 1776", ad infinitum). Along with the popular gatekeepers, there are lesser known others that have criminal backgrounds (or other shady backgrounds) that propagate the half-truths and distortions rolled into one: Jordan Maxwell (real name, Russell Pine, criminal defrauder), Fritz Springmeier (author of Thirteen Illuminati Bloodlines, convicted robber), John Todd (conspiracy theorist, history of rape and pedophilia).

Given that the conspiracy research is all very vast, and that most people are not equipped with philosophical or actual spiritual background (something separate from the New Age), the Truthers that look deep into these conspiracy theories tend to have cognitive dissonances, and conflate their confirmation bias. They buy into many of the listed conspiracy theories (secret societies, royal families, bankers, Jews, Jesuits, etc), and tend to overlook history itself in a vaster outlook; to try put these conspiracies in a greater historical and philosophical context. If you try to question their beliefs and add in some more rational insights, the average 'Truther' will just hurl out usual ad hominems like "sheeple", "you're just not awakened", "shill", etc.

A good research into psychological manipulation and mind control is very helpful in filtering out the crap that has been put into the 'alternative media'. There's one paper, entitled "The Battle For Your Mind", by Dick Stuphen, that goes into the nature of cults; this is related mainly to the so-called Truth Movement.

The Battle For Your Mind - Dick Stuphen

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:11 am

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This fact is especially true, when people start to follow 'activists' like Alex Jones and David Icke; they lure people in with half-truths/half-falsehoods, pump up their fear-mongering as basically any other cultist personality would do; whether luring them into their cult group or advertising products and asking for donations. Groups like We Are Change do nothing but rally around towns and cities (and occasionally the rich elites), yelling and propagating the usual empty 'Truther' slogans ("End The Fed", "Government Corruption!", "The Answer to 1984 is 1776", ad infinitum). Along with the popular gatekeepers, there are lesser known others that have criminal backgrounds (or other shady backgrounds) that propagate the half-truths and distortions rolled into one: Jordan Maxwell (real name, Russell Pine, criminal defrauder), Fritz Springmeier (author of Thirteen Illuminati Bloodlines, convicted robber), John Todd (conspiracy theorist, history of rape and pedophilia).

I've seen many videos by both Alex Jones and David Icke. Those two seem to be the most popular in the CT communities. It does seem like they are charlatans, fear-mongerers who capitalize off the anxieties of the people; but I don't let that distort my perception of conspiracy theories/theorists in general. Some people are so conditioned to instantly deride anyone who takes seriously a conspiracy theory, but these knee-jerk reactions are indicative of dense, superficial minds. People conspire; it's something that has been happening, since the dawn of humanity. Is it really so far-fetched an idea that, perhaps, there are subterranean groups that work together to acquire power in nefarious ways? That doesn't seem far-fetched at all; it seems like an all-too-human endeavor.

Yes, some conspiracy theories are a bit wacky, if we are to be honest; but one shouldn't let those blur out the ones that have legitimacy.

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:34 pm

Erik wrote:

I've seen many videos by both Alex Jones and David Icke. Those two seem to be the most popular in the CT communities. It does seem like they are charlatans, fear-mongerers who capitalize off the anxieties of the people; but I don't let that distort my perception of conspiracy theories/theorists in general. Some people are so conditioned to instantly deride anyone who takes seriously a conspiracy theory, but these knee-jerk reactions are indicative of dense, superficial minds. People conspire; it's something that has been happening, since the dawn of humanity. Is it really so far-fetched an idea that, perhaps, there are subterranean groups that work together to acquire power in nefarious ways? That doesn't seem far-fetched at all; it seems like an all-too-human endeavor.

Yes, some conspiracy theories are a bit wacky, if we are to be honest; but one shouldn't let those blur out the ones that have legitimacy.

You are right that we cannot scoff at the idea that there is a great conspiracy against us, when it is seen in front of us, and is also closely hidden. One cannot really negate the intuition that there are some underlying puppeteering going on between the divergent groups of people (even our 'enemies' such as Russia and even Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany), and perhaps some complex psychological/spiritual war going on. At the same time, we cannot let that intuitive feeling get to us and just start aimlessly speculating about what could be going on; that's the weakness of many people in conspiratorial circles. The mind needs to be mastered and learned about foremost, since it is through our eyes that we're experiencing this.

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:44 pm

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At the same time, we cannot let that intuitive feeling get to us and just start aimlessly speculating about what could be going on; that's the weakness of many people in conspiratorial circles. The mind needs to be mastered and learned about foremost, since it is through our eyes that we're experiencing this.

Agreed.

One has to be careful, when inquiring into these subjects. I remember I almost became obsessed with UFO's at one point...I spent all day researching about them...Unhealthy, if not moderated. It's kind of like living out a suspense movie; you get that sense of excitement, awe, mystery, fear, etc. It's a rush and easily addicting.

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:52 pm

Political terms and -isms; Ideologies; Labels

In the political system, use of labels to either denounce the opponent(s) or to uphold as a belief to be imposed (as in an ideology), are always used in political discussion; very often above any individual or more matured thought and reasoning. For example, if a person calls out the crimes committed by Israel, tries to question the Holocaust or give sympathy to those questioning the Holocaust, or even show any crimes perpetrated by Jews, then he/she will be called an 'anti-Semite' by the established authority. The same form of attack would be labelled on those criticizing feminism (especially radical feminism); criticizing multiculturalism and the damaging effects on mainly the West; denouncing globalism and warning about a global government wrecking havoc on people and nations. Any thought that does not conform to the established 'hive mind' is shot down as unorthodox, alongside other pejorative labels; mainly for the purpose of keeping alive that hive mind and thus keeping control of society.

Then there is often the division of political ideologies and their sides of how this system works. If you are a liberal, then you are Democrat; a conservative, a Republican; an individualist, a Libertarian. The problem with associating individuals with these blanket ideologies is the expectation that those people would have to be a full-hearted believer in those sets of beliefs; you can never deviate from that group and form your own opinions and outlook, or else you would be part of the 'swamp'. In this political system, there is supposed to be simplification and specialization, and that's what ideologies and pejorative labels bring.

The result is that deep thought has been forced underground and into the obscure intellectualism, instead of being into the light of mainstream commonality. A person that participates in politics does not choose his/her beliefs based on reason or reflecting, but on emotions and forced internal dogmatism. If he/she looks into another point of view or ideology in the vaster political sphere, he/she encounters cognitive dissonance and/or uses the shallow labels and fallacious thinking to denounce that other point of view. That's what you see in politics.

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:24 pm

Erik wrote:
I remember I almost became obsessed with UFO's at one point...I spent all day researching about them

What do you spend all day researching now? Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitics   Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:37 am



A very good video above by Slavoj Zizek, who brings up very interesting points about surveillance and why we should not really care.

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