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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:19 am

Some modern women are convinced the "grass is greener on the other side", they think if they hold on and "not settle for less", then one day, a magnificent alpha male will one day just fall through the cracks into their laps, ready to satisfy all her desires and take her away giving her a new life where there is no pain or misery..
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:26 am

The older middle aged woman seeks to play, she feels more comfortable with taking risks as her assertive belligerence as seen her well through her entire life, she thinks just because she can control her boyfriend/husband then she can control all men, as long as she displays the same character similar to her "work face"...but she will not to lay the foundation down directly, of course, she will do it in a very subtle manner, leaving loops, exits she can quickly escape out of and assume a pretence of innocence using her married, kids and career as social proof and validation for her loyalty.

She now feels like she can do anything, make the rules up as she goes along, no shame, no guilt...it is all justified.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:40 am

The MGTOW community of men is not a community, but nothing more than a bunch of individual men who self loathe on the periphery, they find comfort in reading and watching what they want to hear, this collective reinforcement justifies their lack of effort, "it's fun to lose" as Kurt Cobain would say..this applies greatly here..They need to hear women are evil, scum with demonic intentions towards them, this is how they deal with their own powerlessness...at the same time, convincing themselves that men are good....

but they still desire women, often troubled by their desires.. women are aware of this because it hangs over the men, MGTOW know women are aware of this, and it drives them crazy and reinforces their suspicion that women are evil. They start to hate that which they desire, thus start to hate life. They self medicate with computer games and masturbation because they are too afraid to play the real game in real life...and to control their sexual frustration and pending insanity..

They make a deal with the woman within, to ensure their personal stability as they can feel the frustration giving birth to a monster, a monster they wish to escape..  So the passive tendencies within themselves are enhanced, a safety net, they have grown to like. The calm feeling, a submission to the feminine..grants them a moment of release..  it let's them get though it all safe and sound, until the beast breaks free to haunt and remind them once again..

.The submission to the feminine within allows them to be and to live, or merely exist... but at the same time it is very undesirable by the women, and he know this..he develops an anger because he cannot live up to the expectations naturally. He wants her to change, to compromise and to see the "good" within him..without any risks or potential danger coming his way. He wants an escalator ride to success..

All this forces him to choose a number of routes depending upon his individual nature, the level of femininity and the capacity of his mind...

The routes:

1) His outlook towards life will take on a spiritual direction, this is like embracing everything and nothing. They will often convert to religions such as Buddhism and attempt to overcome desire with "mindfullness" which is pretty much thinking of nothing..

There are other version of this particular type, where things are focused around fruits and vegetables, love and freedom..all within a spiritual context..

2) He constantly focuses on masculinity, everything must be big and strong. It's difficult to explain this one because it's not as obvious as just a man going to the gym and working out, but rather it's about returning to an identity of being a man, a man in this case is whatever he feels comfortable with..he will often be expressed through his physical appearance, but also body language and mannerism...or intellect..it can also just be a lack of hygiene, he becomes ok with his own filth and dirt because it's natural.

3) He constantly focuses on femininity and intentionally tries to increase it...This results in a metro-sexual man (if he retains his sexuality)..expressed through body language and mannerism, fashion and outlook towards life, which is usually docile and meek...or passive aggressive if he feels under attack..

4) He embraces an homosexual lifestyle, and see it as a new beginning.  A new start where he can enjoy affection, love and intimacy with another person...a possible pathway to happiness..

5) Everything becomes a joke. He takes nothing serious. It's all messing around. Boyish, or a jack the lad with elements of bitterness seeping through, that which he tries to hide..He becomes slightly mad and lives for the rush. He feels like he has spent too much time on trying to gain approval or validation, now he lives for himself..in chaos..

6) An extreme case, where he desire to be a woman and has surgery to "fix" or "Correct" himself. A "woman trapped inside a man's body"..To mutilate his penis into a vagina, which is not a biologically functioning vagina, but rather just looks like one but because we live in a time of materialism, something only has to look like it in order to be classified as it..so it is an imitation surgery with the adoption of the culturally relative image of a woman, fashion and beauty wise..If you were to place him among the women of African tribes, he would look nothing like them, having absolutely nothing in common...Of course the system allows all of this, and the identity is your choice..so he changes his name from Max to Maxine...

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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:56 am

Some old men never let go of their egos. He wants to see if he has still got it, so he will sign up to college or something similar and try to compete with all the younger men. He will try to out perform them intellectually, and if there are young women present, he will try to intimidate the young men away from the women by giving them a blank stare...Passive intimidation is all he has, he no longer has the beauty, sexual desire or strength to genuinely compete...he just wants to interfere, cock block purely for the sake of cocking blocking...This is how he deals with the weakness of old age. They will also use every opportunity to talk about themselves and the life they have lived, to share his "knowledge" or make foolish attempts of trying to be funny, trying to win people over so he "can fit in" with the hope that his age is over looked and not a factor when it comes to social value and acceptance.

A male form of parasitism.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:00 am

A mother's love for her child is great..

You can be a:

Terrorist.
Rapist.
Serial killer.
Pedo.
Dictator.
Transsexual.
Gay person with HIV.
Whore.
Useless piece of shit who doesn't bother to do anything at all.


..and she will still love you...
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:03 am

You get as far as those who you talk to for no reason.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:22 am

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Some old men never let go of their egos. He wants to see if he has still got it, so he will sign up to college or something similar and try to compete with all the younger men. He will try to out perform them intellectually, and if there are young women present, he will try to intimidate the young men away from the women by giving them a blank stare...Passive intimidation is all he has, he no longer has the beauty, sexual desire or strength to genuinely compete...he just wants to interfere, cock block purely for the sake of cocking blocking...This is how he deals with the weakness of old age. They will also use every opportunity to talk about themselves and the life they have lived, to share his "knowledge" or make foolish attempts of trying to be funny, trying to win people over so he "can fit in" with the hope that his age is over looked and not a factor when it comes to social value and acceptance.

A male form of parasitism.

Yes Mannequin you are right!..

But I would like to add something to what you said, if that is ok with you, sir?

Yes it is..

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.. Yeah uhh, this also applies to having a mid life crisis but is reflected differently in different people who are going through it, because we live in a materialistic time then it is expressed through buying fast and flashy cars, or dating a younger attractive woman, or buying a new outfit...or travelling around the world..trying to be adventurous, or starts to work out making himself big and strong usually aided by steroids..This is also heavily motivated by fear which doesn't necessarily stem from death, but rather the abandonment of old people in modern society...They don't really have a place or anywhere to go, they are generally viewed as useless and are parked off at old people's homes and left for dead, to rot in their own shit and piss and stare out the looking window at a tree, which eventually starts to talk to them...which is probably for the best..it provide a moment of comfort from all the misuse and abuse put on to them by the staff who view old people as nothing more than a nuisance who needs to hurry up and die...Not to mention, all those young female staff, strutting their beauty, ass and boobs in front of all the old women, rubbing it in whilst gleefully smiling..
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:39 am

You can easily obtain sex for practically free by controlling the perception of the situation. The more the male aims to please, or gain to acceptance, or to impress, then the value of sex goes up making it increasingly difficult for him to actually engage in the act. It is at this point his willingness becomes self-deprecating, and his ability becomes vulnerable to monetary demand etc, thus milked, until finally rewarded with sex. The classic nice guy usually falls into this category, the naive variety or the type of man who doesn't feel deserving of such pleasure until he proves his worth, most likely reinforced by some kind of inferiority complex.

However, if the man is clearly broke, but clearly confident enough to "play the game" with enough self-control and understanding of moving or removing, using calculated approach and prolonged abstinence, with a genuine open display of carelessness, then the value of sex heavily decreases with heavily reduced demands because the female's perception of self, at that point, in relationship to the male's desire, is low, thus resulting in sex being handed over a lot easier.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:33 am

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You can easily obtain sex for practically free by controlling the perception of the situation. The more the male aims to please, or gain to acceptance, or to impress, then the value of sex goes up making it increasingly difficult for him to actually engage in the act. It is at this point his willingness becomes self-deprecating, and his ability becomes vulnerable to monetary demand etc, thus milked, until finally rewarded with sex. The classic nice guy usually falls into this category, the naive variety or the type of man who doesn't feel deserving of such pleasure until he proves his worth, most likely reinforced by some kind of inferiority complex.

However, if the man is clearly broke, but clearly confident enough to "play the game" with enough self-control and understanding of moving or removing, using calculated approach and prolonged abstinence, with a genuine open display of carelessness, then the value of sex heavily decreases with heavily reduced demands because the female's perception of self, at that point, in relationship to the male's desire, is low, thus resulting in sex being handed over a lot easier.

Nice observation, and I agree with it.

Touching more on the female attraction to male indifference, I've seen this phenomenon so many times. It's not an exaggeration at all. It's ironic, because you would think that women would be attracted to men, who display interest - not too much, of course - but a moderate amount, as that shows emotional health. But nooo! I've seen many women fall head over heals for robots! For men who are ice-cold to them. I understand that indifference could be a sign of power, but for some reason, I don't think that's the primary allure, not in the minds of the females, anyways. I think that these women, who are attracted to robots, are just taken back by the fact that their beauty doesn't hold such a powerful sway on these males; it sparks their curiosity. The curiosity then grows into an obsession.

This ties into this lack of balance in modernity. These women flee from the extreme pole of the ' nice-guy' all the way to the other polar extreme of the ' indifferent robot '. The ideal is in the middle: a guy who displays interest, emotions; but within reason, just the right amount - not too much, not too little.

I've never been attracted to women, who are indifferent. Of course, males have different psychologies, I understand that; but I think it would do females well to think about and reflect on their emotions, in order to discover possible irrationalities.

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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:05 am

I can't believe how much MGTOW stuff is on youtube, not a bad thing, but I remember when there was just a few people, like stardusk and barbarossa..and that was pretty much it!...Now, there's so much! I've been going through it all day and still haven't got through the half of it...it just goes on and on, ha!..pretty interesting stuff too Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:44 am

To not be engaged in life is to not really be alive, in this state, one may never know that he is alive. You know, wolves sometimes test another animal, often pretending to play with them hoping to invoke a joyous spirit in the young foolish ones, then often leading them out of their territory away from their kind, in order to isolate them making the killing easier.

This is how modern systems work, Humans are hunted and killed, in more ways than one. Humans need a supervisor, for super advice. The modern lifestyle is of uncertainty and doubt, laid out like a map, a very calculated map. The behaviour on the map testifies to the mental image which is necessary to make the map into an order, a functional process.

The bull's horn is of a weapon and defence, the human has be stripped and polished into a dead vulnerability, that vulnerability becomes clear when those who are less polished have an effect on others. The system combats this using prisons, prism...whilst the ongoing process is continuously driven forward to effect as many people as possible until the new reality is created, where humans are now born into it.

It's a struggling process and very damaging, not all will "make it". The system will place parts of nature on the map, such as trees, but placed in a line of order, as a sweet relief but a reinforcement of an ordering process, an easing adjustment.

The sound and picture of reality displayed through an artificial medium, without the actual environmental experience taking place in sync with the sound and picture, will push the human into a disconnection and decline, the root of the being is open to be recreated. The essence is damaged or removed because of this out of synchronization creates a distortion of time and space, they no longer seek out nutrition in any form, a non seeking non hunting submission, any seeking or hunting permissible must reinforce the system, seeking love or hunting for a job , seeking adventure becomes tourism etc

You serve the idea, the new reality, and get paid for your service which protects the vulnerable humans from real reality, the protection is expressed in spent form which further reinforces the system.

Active thinking is removed therefore meaning is lost, there is no practical application for active thinking, this is where regurgitation takes places in a fickle superficial context, and real useful connected memory is gone, then life becomes a discussion, at best, vaguely described with confusion. The new reconnection is lifestyle, status, possession etc..Variations of other culture, as oppose to the dominant one, still linger and can be seen as resistances, or lack of conditioning/adjustment.

Music is another reward allowed to exist, allowing you to hear the screams of people being torn away from reality, listening is the closest you become to what once was, but it's a safe connection, and necessary to keep the human from spinning out of control, eventually music will no longer be needed. The human will become naturally avert to it and disturbed by it, then eventually unresponsive to it.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:08 am

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A mother's love for her child is great..

You can be a:

Terrorist.
Rapist.
Serial killer.
Pedo.
Dictator.
Transsexual.
Gay person with HIV.
Whore.
Useless piece of shit who doesn't bother to do anything at all.


..and she will still love you...

I'm not so sure that that would be true of all mothers but you might have to define your use of the word "love' here.

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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:51 am

Nice post, Mannequin.

I didn't know wolves did that! That's interesting; it reminds me of what they do in prison to the " fresh fish ". Some veteran will go up to the newcomer, pretend to be his friend, welcome him and what not; but then, he takes him somewhere isolated and pins him up against the wall, putting a shank to his throat, threatening to kill him, unless he pays a certain amount of money every 2 weeks.

And nice post, in general, too! It brings to mind what Foucault believed about the system, namely that standardization and norms were insidious forms of oppression. Instead of the education system fostering an environment of creativity and free-thinking, it forces people into a narrow box of standardization and credit. It doesn't matter how much you, actually, learn; you just need to show up to class and receive those lovely credits! That's all they, really, care about.

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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:29 am

Yeah extortion taking place in prisons is very prevalent and intentionally turned a blind eye to, along with rape and general violence. They allow it because it acts as a deterrent which discourages inmates from breaking the law once they are released, increasing the fear and letting the inmates know what they will be subjected to if they decide to carry on with such undesirable behaviour. It's a carefully hidden form of real world humbling by forcing people into order, or you will be locked into a small controlled area with a bunch of ruthless alpha males who will have their way with you, where you will have no help. This form of hidden humbling and fear based forced correction allows the systems to maintain reduced prison sentences and less serve punishment for broken laws, so it syncs with the age of political correctness and human values, allowing the civilization to appear more humane and advanced than it actually is, whilst the heavy discipline is still needed for control purposes.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:27 pm

There are two types of laughter I want to mention:

1.) Laughter that emanates from nervousness.

2.) Laughter that emanates from a feeling of superiority.

The former, often times, tries to feign itself as the latter; but an intuitive mind can easily detect the pretension. Nervous laughter is an attempt to alleviate the organism of its tension, whereas the one of superiority is a natural expression of might.

To correspond this to another subject, discursively, I find myself laughing in silence at these people I used to go to school with, how they flaunt all of their pictures of themselves at house-parties, bars, etc, etc. The girls are dressed like complete sluts and the guys look like total tools. One might try to claim that I am bitter or envious, but honestly, I really don't think so; I see their lives for what they are: base, shallow, neurotic, and petty. These people aren't even really ' people '; they seem more like animals, driven mindlessly by their base impulses --- grazing in fields of hedonism. They put up all these pictures on their Facebook, trying to convey their social-status and just how special they are, but people, who are above all that shit, see them for what they really are. They will settle down eventually, become more solemn - many will become depressed once they reach their late 30's, realizing that there isn't anything left after the party, except existential despair. Some will try to get back in touch with their religious upbringing, while others won't ever get past the partying phase.

I'm glad that I was enlightened early in my youth, so I won't have to waste the majority of my life with petty bullshit. Many of these people from my past probably think I'm a loser, because I care more about reading, than slamming down coronas and 45's. Fuck what they think of me, though; who the hell are they to me, anyhow? Why should I care what a bunch of petty degenerates, who probably don't even know something as simple as, say, which pharaoh fought in the battle of Kadesh, think of me? Haha! Do lions regard the chattering of mice?

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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:30 am

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So, went the stabbing route, eh? Not the conventional shoot em' up with a shotgun?

Never understood why they decide to liquify the entire family...

You of all people should understand the human tendency for senseless violence. It was you of all people who in their teenage years made bombs out of tennis balls with the intent to kill for a quick laugh.

As for grinches, I thought the grinch was the wiser one of the bunch. I wouldn't call working 364 days a year like a slave for one Christmas holiday off sensible.
The human clings to life due to pure instinct. The human enjoys life due to pure instinct and or learned data. Trixie understand's the human's point of view, but does the human understand Trixie's?
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:05 am

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You of all people should understand the human tendency for senseless violence. It was you of all people who in their teenage years made bombs out of tennis balls with the intent to kill for a quick laugh.

That was, actually, the mannequin who did that, not me.

Nice referring to yourself in the 3rd person, Trix.

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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:31 pm

Triple post. (Site glitched.)

Well I might as well use this triple post to my advantage. You seem to observe the symptoms of human relationships, but not their cause. Women want to be dominated by men. Humans have an underlying desire to become nothing. Did you think that Loki's speech was just senseless rambling? No of course not. You are aware of this subjugation.

Therefore, if a man does not assert himself, the women is left to her own thoughts. And she becomes disgusted at the situation, as most men are not physically attractive (though some men are, like Jebus.) Jebus probably wouldn't have to try very hard to get a date.

Also, most women are more comfortable with the female form. We find boobs laughable, and slightly arousing. But because they are so laughable we don't actively seek them, but if they presented themselves we would enjoy it. This is the nature of female, passive, waiting and hoping for miracles to happen.

A man is not as appealing as the female form, but women are too passive therefore there is hardly any lesbian action going on. Also, vaginas are quite disgusting. Any women who denies female beauty is probably an airhead, as why would would women know how to apply makeup properly if they did not understand female beauty. If a woman does not find herself beautiful it is like an art master who creates genius but even finds his genius unsatisfactory. Women are perfectionists, and like many perfectionists, are fickle. The next day she may be gazing upon herself in the mirror with affection.


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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:34 pm

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Trixie wrote:
You of all people should understand the human tendency for senseless violence. It was you of all people who in their teenage years made bombs out of tennis balls with the intent to kill for a quick laugh.

That was, actually, the mannequin who did that, not me.

Nice referring to yourself in the 3rd person, Trix.

Cute

I often do but when I said grinch I didn't mean myself. For the grinch succumbed to the delusions of others, he obeyed his instincts and emotions and didn't give his own perspectives enough credit. The Grinch might have learned something from the people around him, but did the people around him bother to learn from the Grinch? Nope, they just overpowered him through  mass and volume, and popular opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:29 am

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There are two types of laughter I want to mention:

1.) Laughter that emanates from nervousness.

2.) Laughter that emanates from a feeling of superiority.

The former, often times, tries to feign itself as the latter; but an intuitive mind can easily detect the pretension. Nervous laughter is an attempt to alleviate the organism of its tension, whereas the one of superiority is a natural expression of might.

Erik, sometimes No. 1 IS simply from nervousness. ..maybe similar to a catharis...but not necessarly out to prove anything. Sometimes that person will actually allow others to know how they're feeling in the moment - being honest about it, not superior.
One doesn't need to be intuitive to know body language.

Laughter which emanates from a "feeling" of superiorty MAY JUST BE coming from low self-esteem. Haven't you ever noticed that those who feel they are superior, not all, but many, actually feel inferior at their core, feigning superiority.

But you did after all in the beginning say "often times".
Things are not always so cut and dry Erik. Just because we tend to see something in a certain way doesn't mean that's all there is to see.


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To correspond this to another subject, discursively, I find myself laughing in silence at these people I used to go to school with, how they flaunt all of their pictures of themselves at house-parties, bars, etc, etc. The girls are dressed like complete sluts and the guys look like total tools. One might try to claim that I am bitter or envious, but honestly, I really don't think so; I see their lives for what they are: base, shallow, neurotic, and petty. These people aren't even really ' people '; they seem more like animals, driven mindlessly by their base impulses --- grazing in fields of hedonism. They put up all these pictures on their Facebook, trying to convey their social-status and just how special they are, but people, who are above all that shit, see them for what they really are. They will settle down eventually, become more solemn - many will become depressed once they reach their late 30's, realizing that there isn't anything left after the party, except existential despair. Some will try to get back in touch with their religious upbringing, while others won't ever get past the partying phase.

I'm glad that I was enlightened early in my youth, so I won't have to waste the majority of my life with petty bullshit. Many of these people from my past probably think I'm a loser, because I care more about reading, than slamming down coronas and 45's. Fuck what they think of me, though; who the hell are they to me, anyhow? Why should I care what a bunch of petty degenerates, who probably don't even know something as simple as, say, which pharaoh fought in the battle of Kadesh, think of me? Haha! Do lions regard the chattering of mice

There but for the grace of god, go I, Erik?
Why not just detach from it all - after all of this time.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:41 am

I saw a photo of Helen Keller at a very young age with Ann Sullivan the other day. It occured to me: How could she or anyone possibly have known how she would have so personally evolved, how she would have inspired and influenced so many people ~~ being deaf, blind and a mute.

It gives one pause to think, really think, doesn't it?

We can never really judge a person so much or predict how they will turn out, what will become of them, what will they someday achieve - just based on what we know of them because there is so much more to be seen, so much more than we are able to calculate because of what we are not able to see, because our biases get in the way.

At times we see so much possibility or even probability when it eventually turns out that we were wrong because we see only what we choose to. At other times, we see nothing where so much possiblity becomes reality.

As we all know, have discovered, Freddie was correct in saying that "You must have chaos within yourself to give birth to a dancing star." Can you even image the chaos that she must have had within herself, being blind, deaf and mute. Such a black/dark quiet, lonely world - not to be able to communicate and express herself, to see the world as we do -- but at some point, she became such a beautiful star.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:09 pm

They put dead humans in boxes under the ground.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:52 pm

Every stage is a stage.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:19 pm

The female jumps on the bandwagon of feminism to use it as a social and political outlet to threaten the male with non-existence as a punishment for not paying the price after fucking her.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts    Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:26 pm

If the character Christian Grey, from the 50 shades of grey book, wasn't rich, then the book would not of been a best seller.
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